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Hey, this is not the fault of everyone in the US. Don't hate us. Hate our stinking government. Most of us do anyway.

Can I hate half of you? I'm really tempted, you know :(

Okay, but not the half of us on the meme, right?

Course not. I couldn't hate anyone who loves Sherlock ♥

Congress=/=government, you know?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislators_who_support_or_oppose_SOPA/PIPA

I figure if they're not supporting SOPA/PIPA, they've probably done something else that irritates me. I am a bipartisan/equal opportunity hater.

Hmm. Not a person who hates bipartisanship or equal opportunity...gotta think of a better way to phrase that.

Anyone who's in a position of power is there because they want that power and all the trappings that come with it. They want to be important and wealthy and have the to power to maintain their positions. They sell out the people they're supposed to represent to similarly wealthy and powerful special interests who wield them like tools. There are no heroes in government. The heroes are all working for non-profits, and not as CEOs.

Why do individual Americans always think people saying they hate America is directed at them. It's not. It's directed at your Government or your perceived national attitudes or your foreign policy. The people are not the country. The country is a political division, nothing more.

The people are not the country? That's like saying Germany isn't Germans. Countries are about people. Political divisions are about people.

No, they aren't. Countries are arbitrary political divisions which change over time. Germany is an obvious example of this, as is Italy. While I was born in England and so am English, I am not England and there are occasions when I don't support what the country of England does.

Very well said.

As a German I can say with certainty that only a very small number of people would get their panties in a twist about people saying they hate Germany. I'd want to know what the government had done, but the very idea that it was the same thing as "I hate you Germans." wouldn't cross my mind. Most German people can't be bothered with the amount of patriotism a US citizen seems to muster effortlessly.

Can't you... I don't know, vote for someone who doesn't stink? It's so depressing that the most powerful people in the world are controlled in their decisions by rich arseholes who don't have to answer to anyone but their shareholders :(

There's a problem with this statement. All politicians suck. There isn't a single one that "doesn't stink." The politicians that "don't stink" quickly become corrupted or don't last long. An idealist, humanitarian a politician does not make. The American people have far less control than you think.

Yeah well, saying that like it's a fact no-one can change is a bit not good, especially when it comes from a country that thinks it can teach other countries about democracy.

da*

It is a fact, and it's more than a bit not good. Notice that the US likes to teach other countries about capitalism while it's teaching them about democracy, and then it sends the fat cats in.

*is an American

Not saying that no one can change. But trust me, if American politics were to change for the better, things would have to get a whole hell of a lot worse than they already have. (That old song and dance of how things get worse before they get better.)

"saying that like it's a fact no-one can change is a bit not good, especially when it comes from a country that thinks it can teach other countries about democracy." And I think this is why a lot of Americans get up in arms about "I AM NOT MY GOVERNMENT/COUNTRY." Because right there? That's what you just did. That's what a lot of people do. I don't think it's what the OP did or the first commenter, but you just made that mistake. It may be hard to believe, but I am not a country. Do a lot of Americans think we should try and teach other nations about democracy? Not really. It's none of our damn business. Our government does what it damn well pleases with or without our vote. Hence what I was saying before. We have very little power, and our politicians are shit.

No, that's not what I did, my point was that Americans shouldn't just shrug and give up the very idea of responsibility. What I meant was that it gives me the creeps when Americans tell me that their politicians do what they want and no-one has the power to change anything. Because when the Americans really don't have the power to change their government, then the US is not a democracy. You people are the only thing in the world that has power over the US government, but you don't get it.

No, you don't get it. The US isn't a democracy, it's a fascist-capitalistic state and the masses don't know when they've been manipulated. Everyone falls into like and follows whatever puppet the rich and powerful have set up to do their bidding.

I'm peaceful, and I believe in the people.

You just need an iskra.

I'm awake, and you're dreaming.

ayrt

Damn. Everything The Simpsons taught me about America is true x_X

Pretty much, yeah.

Please refer to Team America: World Police for all your documentary needs.

Ah. So you don't live in America. Explains it. And if you knew anything about American politics and actually lived here, you'd get where I'm coming from.

I suppose you're right. All we have to do is band together and realize we're strong as one. Together we can lose our jobs, our homes and our families, possibly our lives (yes, it could get that bad. If you think our government wouldn't call for police action if there was a mass protest, you are very, very wrong). At least we'd be making a point, right? I don't understand why people don't just destroy their lives for the greater good.

It gives me "the creeps" when someone standing from a distance feels justified and righteous to shout "You're not trying hard enough!" but not have to be the one under the stress.

I can't help but think that you are very, very young if you're using the spiel "but it's a democracy! You must have power!" You need to look up what a true democracy is and compare it to the workings of the American government. You will find, shockingly, two systems that don't even remotely resemble one another. We have similarities like voting, but that's pretty much where it ends. We vote people in. That's it. We have no control over who runs, we just get them and decide between them. We have no control over what they do once they're in power. They come up with the laws and vote on them. We don't. Our democracy doesn't mean what you think it means. It's a system just as flawed and theoretical as all the rest.

American government lesson: Did you know, that if the majority of the American people don't vote for Presidential candidate A, he/she can still get in? He/She just needs a few key states. Eleven major states can vote for him/her and the other 39 don't, and he/she can STILL win. Tell me how that's democracy, then, when the majority is pushed aside? Actually, this is the truth with anything. The majority of the population can vote against something and STILL win/get passed.

American government lesson 2: I'll give you an example. A very small scale example because I think they work best (after all, if a small branch of the government can't do something right, what the hell makes you think the larger ones can?). There was a protest held by gun toting fanatics protesting schools and their rules against having firearms on campus. They considered it unconstitutional that the schools were preventing people on campus from carrying guns with them in their dorms, walking around campus, and going to classes. The day they came to protest was the day after there was a school shooting (the second one in fact) at Virgina tech. The teachers, the students, and the parents sent letters and did protests against having guns at school. They, logically, considered it unsafe. It didn't matter. These few fanatics (who were also threatening to bring loaded weapons to the protest at the campus) were listened to instead of the much, much, MUCH larger group of people against.

These are not just "a few examples." This kind of stuff happens ALL THE TIME. And even though people DO take responsibility and do what is in their power to fight against or for something, in the end, it doesn't matter.

We don't shrug, darlin'. We fight and lose and get tired of losing.

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