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sherlockbbc_fic ([personal profile] sherlockbbc_fic) wrote2013-09-29 04:24 pm

Prompting Part XXXIV


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Re:To both nonnies above me- NOT OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-19 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
To both nonnies - I am sure the scene can be interpreted both ways - I, for instance,can agree wit the OP(Sherlock deliberately relapsing for a CASE could be read as in control of the cravings as far as I am concerned)

I do not know what made nonnie#2 say that control over cocaine intake is an illusion - and I respect all the unsaid reasons - but there is an ongoing debate about this issue and therefore presenting it as an universal fact is a bit of an oversimplification.
But my point is something else-
This is a kink meme, OP nonnie read the scene that way - and they were trying to prompt a fic based on that reading, so please let's not dismiss their interpretation of events just because it is different from yours.

P.S. I am sure there is a place where this can be discussed in more detail and I'd love to visit it and talk about this some more but alas I have no idea where to even start looking.

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-21 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
To the third anon - thank you for coming to my defence. I agree that there is not enough evidence to make a solid conclusion either way, but I think the evidence does lean towards Sherlock being in control. That's just my reading, anyway, so feel free to fill my prompt or leave it.

As for discussion of the drug issue, there's a fairly good one here: http://sherlock.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=4230. And I side with the excellent opinion of one user who put it this way:

You will find that the canon Holmes did indeed use drugs wholly & solely for the purpose of sharpening his mind. This is a natural phenomenon of the substance. Unfortunately in today's world, people associate drug taking with 'a need to get high'. Like so many other things nowadays, nothing is worth doing unless it's in excess it seems.

But going back to its original use, it can be very addictive to most people, however those with the mindset needed to resist addiction as Holmes (canon) has, even Sherlock (BBC) has (which many refuse to see) were quite able to use it when needed and leave it as well.

There have been no actual references to Sherlock being a drug addict, the references that you are all screaming at me as you read this have NOT been shown to be related to a drug addiction, just an addiction. And as these fora pages show, addictions can come in many shapes & sizes.

Yes, certainly the morphine adjustment that Sherlock made was a obvious attempt to show the viewers that he CAN control himself, again however this will be overlooked by many who do not know the canon well and hence the assumptions come thick & fast that he's a junkie or a recovering one.

So his excuse for being there (to gain CAM's attention) was in fact true, he gained it in a different way than he thought he would, but the result was satisfactory for his needs.


To the first anon - yes, I believe he was putting on an act. That he was using the drugs as a means to an end (as a ruse to protect John from CAM), not an end in itself (chasing the high). I believe his explicit statement to Mycroft that he was high was used more as an excuse to act out than anything else.

Sure, we know he wasn't clean. But that doesn't necessarily mean he was high, or would suffer severe withdrawal or cravings. We don't know how much he took, what he took, or for how long he was taking it, for example. He could control these factors. Physiologically, he doesn't even display the symptoms of being high on smack (his pupils are normal, for example).

His mind palace has also shown that he can exercise extraordinary control over his body by thought alone, to the point of overcoming a bullet wound. Surely this suggests his mental discipline is such as to overcome drug cravings.

To the second anon - Sherlock subsequently lowers his morphine intake again in the same scene. This implies he has enough discipline over his drug use not to let it interfere with his case.

Re: To both nonnies above me- NOT OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-21 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
To the third anon - thank you for coming to my defence. I agree that there is not enough evidence to make a solid conclusion either way, but I think the evidence does lean towards Sherlock being in control. That's just my reading, anyway, so feel free to fill my prompt or leave it.

As for discussion of the drug issue, there's a fairly good one on a BBC Sherlock fan forum. And I side with the excellent opinion of one user who put it this way:

You will find that the canon Holmes did indeed use drugs wholly & solely for the purpose of sharpening his mind. This is a natural phenomenon of the substance. Unfortunately in today's world, people associate drug taking with 'a need to get high'. Like so many other things nowadays, nothing is worth doing unless it's in excess it seems.

But going back to its original use, it can be very addictive to most people, however those with the mindset needed to resist addiction as Holmes (canon) has, even Sherlock (BBC) has (which many refuse to see) were quite able to use it when needed and leave it as well.

There have been no actual references to Sherlock being a drug addict, the references that you are all screaming at me as you read this have NOT been shown to be related to a drug addiction, just an addiction. And as these fora pages show, addictions can come in many shapes & sizes.

Yes, certainly the morphine adjustment that Sherlock made was a obvious attempt to show the viewers that he CAN control himself, again however this will be overlooked by many who do not know the canon well and hence the assumptions come thick & fast that he's a junkie or a recovering one.

So his excuse for being there (to gain CAM's attention) was in fact true, he gained it in a different way than he thought he would, but the result was satisfactory for his needs.


To the first anon - yes, I believe he was putting on an act. That he was using the drugs as a means to an end (as a ruse to protect John from CAM), not an end in itself (chasing the high). I believe his explicit statement to Mycroft that he was high was used more as an excuse to act out than anything else.

Sure, we know he wasn't clean. But that doesn't necessarily mean he was high, or would suffer severe withdrawal or cravings. We don't know how much he took, what he took, or for how long he was taking it, for example. He could control these factors. Physiologically, he doesn't even display the symptoms of being high on smack (his pupils are normal, for example).

His mind palace has also shown that he can exercise extraordinary control over his body by thought alone, to the point of overcoming a bullet wound. Surely this suggests his mental discipline is such as to overcome drug cravings.

To the second anon - Sherlock subsequently lowers his morphine intake again in the same scene. This implies he has enough discipline over his drug use not to let it interfere with his case.

Re: Third anon here

(Anonymous) 2014-01-23 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Glad to have helped OP, but I am afraid I am an atrocious writer - I would love to see your prompt filled though as much as I would like to, I really can't do it myself. Sorry :(
In any case, thank you for the forums link - what a nice place that is :) and I do like the argument you cited here - its pretty much how I see him and that's why I generally avoid reading the 'Sherlock is a junkie' or 'Sherlock relapses (for whatever reason)' fics - there are a few gems there, ofc, but to me, its just not worth it, the wading through heaps of PSA-ads reasoning.
Also, can't help saying this - to me he uses the drugs in HLV to make himself seem like less of a threat to CAM - he even says something like that at one point - not to manufacture a fake pressure point (he obviously doesn't care who knows) or to wallow in self-pity. How effective the strategy is, well, that's another thing entirely.

Re: Third anon here

(Anonymous) 2014-01-23 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
OP here.

There's a few gems in the mountains of junkie Sherlock fic, you say? Wouldn't mind a rec or two. :)

Exactly as you said, Sherlock only uses the drugs as a red herring for CAM. I'd also argue he uses it as an artful way to reunite with John post-wedding, because the smack house meeting is just too stunning a coincidence... but I'll not go off on a ramble about meta.

I suppose my prompt is not attractive as it doesn't provide the same scope for tears and drama as a junkie fic. But I think there is good potential here too.

I mean, John's reaction to Sherlock's drug use was barely addressed in HLV. He'd surely be doing more. Perhaps dropping NA pamphlets on Sherlock's table. Or devising wacky methods to address Sherlock's boredom / so-called drug triggers. Or round up the gang to stage a formal intervention.

Sherlock might start concealing his drug use in response. Or he might be more brazen about it just to spite John. Actually, I could see Sherlock going to an NA meeting just to troll everyone there, haha. I'd like to see that.